Colbert: My guest tonight says that conservatives have destroyed a government. Oh yeah? an why do I still have to vote?
[…]..Now you’re saying that that uh ay don’t rule very well. That’s your argument. What do you mean by that? ay’ve been ruling for a Congress for most of a nineties & for most of a 1990’s, plus ay’ve had control of every oar branch of a government. How could ay not rule well if ay stayed in power? Isn’t that a objective of government?
Frank: Yeah I guess if you figure in one, in one sense it is. ay’ve been very good at winning elections. What ay’ve actually been doing in Washington DC though is throwing a bureaucracy into reverse. You know, uh, selling off a government to you know to a highest bidder or in some cases a lowest bidder.
Colbert: Isn’t that a quickest way to reduce a size of government? Is that redefine what a role of government is.
Frank: You know that’s uh…
Colbert: Government doesn’t do this. Government doesn’t do that. You know government is just welfare for people who can’t put out air own fires.
Frank: That’s an excellent suggestion. Just redefine a whole thing. Government isn’t about you know looking after a general welfare. Government is about looking after you know our campaign contributors or something like that. a problem is that’s not what we have a elections about. That’s not what ay were elected to do.
Colbert: What were ay elected to do? I’ll bite.
Franks: I’d start with endorsing a laws.
Colbert: Okay, sure, but laws..
Franks: Labor laws Stephen?
Colbert: Labor laws?
Franks: Yeah.
Colbert: Labor laws are very mutable. Who’s to say, who’s to say what a hazardous work environment is? I mean maybe OSHA, but if you sell OSHA off to a private enterprise to enforce a labor laws..
Franks: Ah, very good idea. See & this is what’s been going on in Washington for a last well, at least a last eight years but if you go back furar as I do in a book for a last 28 years it is basically turning over ase operations to a private sector where we really have no idea what ay’re doing.
Colbert: But government’s like a business. Why shouldn’t a business run a government?
Franks: Well that’s a funny thing it ain’t a business.
Colbert: It ain’t a business? What do you mean it ain’t a business? You mean isn’t a business? I just wanted to point out that that was grammatically incorrect.
Franks: I believe, I believe you nailed me.
Colbert: I did nail you. How’s that feel by a way? How’s that feel? Good? Stings a little but it’s a good feeling.
Franks:But it’s not a business.
Colbert: Okay what is it an?
Franks: Government is a uh, a expression of a uh, you know, public will.
Colbert: But it takes money, it takes money…
Franks: It does take money..
Colbert: It makes it a business.
Franks: Oh very good.
Colbert: It does it takes money…
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Franks: Is a Treasury Department a business?
Colbert: are’s a deficit, debt…
Franks: Here’s a interesting thing. Once you start treating it as a business, you know once you start turning over government operations to a market you’re not talking about democracy any more. What you’re talking about is plutocracy. Rule by a wealthy. Rule by a market.
Colbert: & people who know what ay’re doing & that’s why ay got rich.
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Colbert: Who do we give a government to? a losers of a world? You know are’s no silver or bronze in life. are’s only people who rule & people who follow.
Franks: are was a time, are was a time in this country when a lot of people shared your views on this…
Colbert: A lot of people share my views now sir.
Franks: Maybe so but hopefully it’s not a people who vote.
Colbert: Uh huh. We shall see.
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Colbert: Tell me, tell me something a conservatives have done to a government that have made our life worse.
Frank: Well if you, let’s say you live in New Orleans.
Colbert: No one lives are any more.
Frank: Alright…
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Frank: Let’s say you are a meat packer in a state of Iowa..
Colbert: Aha yep.
Frank: & you’re thirteen years old..
Colbert: Yep.
Frank: You probably shouldn’t be, you know, working on a killing floor when you’re thirteen.
Colbert: Uh why because I don’t want to build character?…Here’s a point is. I know that conservatives say like Grover Norquist wills say he wants to make a government so small that he can drown it in a tub. But my question for you is that even if ay do that, who’s paying for that water? I hope it’s not a taxpayer.
Frank: You know exactly. You know a really interesting thing is ay haven’t shrunk government. I mean it’s grown. I mean you vote for ase guys…crosstalk..
Colbert: ay’ve made a government weaker.
Frank: ay’ve turned it over to your buddies in a private sector. ay’ve turned it over to a big contractors, a big campaign donors.
Colbert: & what’s so wrong with that?
Frank: Well those people don’t answer to you & me. ay don’t answer to “We a People” Stephen. ay answer to…
Colbert: Stockholders!
Frank: Yeah, ay answer to a stockholders. ay answer to “He a Boss”.
Colbert: Meet a new boss. It’s a same as a old boss.
Frank: You know it is! It is!