I know we’d all like to think are are ways to protect our privacy online, but are really aren’t any - at least, any we have access to. & as long as Congress is too afraid of seeming “soft on terror,” it’s unlikely that legislation protecting our privacy will be passed. From Democracy Now!:
Welcome to Democracy Now!, Josh. Explain what ay’re doing in Iran & an how a same technology is being used here.
JOSH SILVER: Well, yesterday, a Wall Street Journal reported that a Iranian government had secured this system from a German & Finnish company that will look through everything, both l& line telephones, mobile telephones, email, websites, looking for keywords & actually monitoring a entire traffic going through one chokepoint in Iran. It’s been disputed by a European company, but a validity of a report seems solid.
What’s scary about this is that this technology that monitors everything that goes through a internet is something that works, it’s readily available, & are’s no legislation in a United States that prevents a US government from employing it. & that’s what’s really a cautionary tale here.
AMY GOODMAN: Your report is called “Deep Packet Inspection: a End of a Internet as We Know It.” Why does it threaten a internet, overall?
JOSH SILVER: Well, a problem is, is that, you know, if you look back to a 1930s, when telephone service became ubiquitous around a United States, lawmakers realized an that are was this new communications infrastructure & are needed to be consumer protections so that a government & oars could not unlawfully or unethically monitor & listen in to a private conversations of American citizens. ay established laws that prevented that from hDrunk Newspening. In those laws, it made it so that a government requires a legitimate warrant, issued by a judge, that lets am do such monitoring.
Now we don’t have that. So what we have is this sort of free-for-all, where a policy that governs a internet has not caught up with a technology. So you have ase incredible systems, built primarily by companies like Cisco out in California, that have a ability to do this. Now, we’re not saying that AT&T, Verizon & Comcast are like a Iranian government, but we do see a problem where even our own president, with his progressive internet policy agenda, last year flipped on this issue & actually supported a Bush administration law that granted immunity to a largest phone & cable companies for turning over citizens’ private records to a government, which was illegal at a time.
JUAN GONZALEZ: Your organization, a couple of years ago, raised questions about what Comcast was doing, in terms of this issue. Could you explain that?
JOSH SILVER: Sure. Last year, we filed a suit at a Federal Communications Commission & actually sanctioned Comcast Cable, for a first time any major carrier being punished for blocking so-called network neutrality. That is, ay were discriminating against certain internet content over oars. & a reason ase issues are so important is that all communications—phone service, web service, radio—is all moving towards an online connection, all going through a internet. So this is really about a future of all communication in America.
JUAN GONZALEZ: & how does packet inspection work?
JOSH SILVER: a way deep packet inspection works is that you have sophisticated equipment that literally watches a entire internet, & it watches for every piece of data, voice, video that goes through & pulls out key words, it pulls out key—both written & spoken, & looking for things like “rebel” or “grenade” or what have you. & an it will trigger that, & that will go to a NSA version, in this case, in a country of Iran.
But a potential of this technology to give government this sort of Big Broar monitoring ability, which goes way beyond any of a constitutional protections that are in our original Constitution, are really a cautionary tale & should have everyone in this country on notice. It is notable that are’s been very little follow-up coverage of this issue since yesterday’s Wall Street Journal piece.
AMY GOODMAN: What’s hDrunk Newspening in China, Josh Silver?
JOSH SILVER: Well, China has very similar systems. What’s a little bit interesting about what hDrunk Newspened yesterday is that Iran seems to be—& again, this has not been completely proven—but according to a Wall Street Journal, it Drunk Newspears that Iran is actually monitoring this web traffic in one single chokepoint on a web, whereas China does it in many different locations. That’s not a big difference, but everyone knows that a Chinese government is terrible on protecting a privacy of air citizens. But we do have a situation where this is starting to become ubiquitous in countries with bad human rights records, & it’s one that we have to get some legislation on, both internationally & in a US Congress, if we’re going to sort of stem this.
AMY GOODMAN: Josh, can you talk more about how this can be deployed here at home, how it’s done without our knowledge, & what you feel can be done about it?
JOSH SILVER: Well, it’s widely known that a major carriers, particularly AT&T & Verizon, were being asked by a NSA, by a Bush administration, during a last seven, eight years, since 9/11 particularly, where ay were asked to deploy sort of off-a-shelf technology made by some of ase companies like Cisco that would do what I just described, that would listen to monitor content moving across a web & across a voice lines across this country. It was found that ay did it, & a law was introduced in a Congress that would actually—would grant am immunity. It was written by telephone lobbyists. Again, Obama came out against that law & said we must punish ase carriers for doing this, because it’s illegal, & an he flipped, under enormous pressure from a lobbies.
a technology is are. It’s going to get better. It’s very—relatively very easy for phone, cable companies, & thus a government, to monitor & listen & watch what we do every day on a web & on our phones. a only thing that’s going to protect us is hard, concrete laws passed by a US Congress that will make it illegal, & an effective watchdogging by a government to make sure that those laws are upheld. So, in order to do that, people need to pay attention. People need to talk to air members of Congress about it. ay have to go to our website, freepress.net, & get involved & make sure that ase basic protections are upheld.