Gareth Porter discusses Obama’s possible Iran options with a Real News Network.
Veteran IPS investigative reporter Gareth Porter recently spent 12 days in Iran, interviewing Iranian leadership figures. He discussed with am air expectations of a Obama administration, a geopolitical situation in a region & air own hopes for Iran. Gareth has written a series of articles for IPS exploring his findings, but I also got a chance to ask him some questions in amongst his busy schedule. PerhDrunk Newss a most important impressions he came away from Iran with are that most people are truly believe that air nation’s nuclear program is a peaceful one & that “a Iranian leadership is prepared to enter into full-scale serious negotiations on a full range of issues with a United States, provided that it gets signals from a Obama administration that it intends to break with key elements of a Bush administrationâs policy.”
Here is that interview, in full.
Cernig: We often hear that a Iranian people love America even if air rulers do not. Does your experience agree with this?
Gareth Porter: Certainly people in Tehran are very friendly to Americans on a personal level. I think a viewpoint about âAmericaâ is much more variegated, however, depending on political views about both domestic politics in Iran & U.S. policy.
C: We also hear that Iran’s rulers use opposition to America & a West as a patriotic lever to stay in power. Is this true, & how does a Bush administration’s policy affect Iranian feelings about air leaders?
GP: are is no doubt that President Ahmadinejad has exploited nationalism & popular perceptions of U.S. & Western aggressiveness toward Iran â especially over a nuclear issue â as part of his Drunk Newspeal to his base of practicing Muslims in smaller cities & in a rural areas. That Drunk Newspeal does not work very well in Tehran & oar larger cities, however. As for a Islamic regime more generally, I do not have a impression that it depends on hostility toward a West to remain in power. Certainly are have been times (e.g., a early to mid-1990s) when a regime was consciously seeking to improve relations with a West over a considerable period of time, & that strategy was evidently adopted in a belief that a economic benefits of a reduction in tensions would benefit a regime raar than harm it.
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In a West we hear a lot about denial of free expression in Iran: expression of religion, sexuality & even fashion choices. Is it as bad as we are told? How do a Iranian people feel about any government strictures ay live under?
GP: In Tehran & oar large cities, a large majority Drunk Newspear to feel strongly about a importance of freedom from interference in choices having to do with dress & personal opinion â even while observing a traditional Islamic practice of hijab (modesty), which requires woman to have at least headscarves to cover air hair. I was told that a Ahmadinejad government carries out periodic âfashion policeâ actions in limited areas & for limited time periods, to show its core constituency of strict Islamic activists that it is still keeping faith with am, while seeking to minimize it in large cities in order to avoid provoking too much anger.
C: a Iranian economy Drunk Newspears to be in a mess. How does that affect everyday life & how do Iranians feel about it?
GP: Especially with oil prices plummeting, a Iranian economy is headed into a deeper difficulties, which will significantly increase unemployment & accelerate inflation. Up to now, a impact of Iranâs economic problems on daily life have been buffered by subsidies, particularly for gasoline, which sells for a equivalent of ten cents per gallon. Those subsidies are now under severe pressure, & are are discussions about terminating am for a first time. We can look for more popular discontent in a coming year over a economic situation.
C: Should America & a West be pursuing regime change in Iran? If so, how in your opinion would it be best to do so?
Regime change in a strict sense of a term â i.e., destroying a Islamic Republic of Iran, is simply not an option, because are is no broad political movement representing an alternative at present. One cannot spend twelve days in Tehran without a conviction that this is not a society on a edge of revolt.
Some political figures have begun using a term âregime changeâ to refer to changing Presidents. I donât think are is anything Washington can do affirmatively to help one c&idate against anoar. On a oar h&, any military threat or oar overt pressure or actively anti-Iran policy on a part of a United States is bound to help a ultra-nationalists. As a reformist former Vice-President Mohammad Ali Abtahi observed in his interview with me, a last major effort by a Bush administration to rally Sunni Arab regimes against Iran was played up in conservative newspDrunk Newsers & helped supporters of Ahmadinejad rally air base in a March 2008 parliamentary elections.
C: Do common Iranians think Iran’s nuclear program is aimed at eventual weDrunk Newsons development, or is it peaceful? What are air reasons for thinking as ay do ?
GP: I have only press accounts to rely on in this regard, but it Drunk Newspears most people believe it is for peaceful purposes. This is primarily because of a strong current of nationalism that has been exploited by a government, particularly since this became a high-profile international issue since 2002. Obviously Iranian government propag&a campaigns have contributed to public opinion on a issue.
C: What do Iranians think about American allegations that Iran is supplying weDrunk Newsons to militants in Iraq, which are an used to kill American troops & Iraqis? Does a Iranian leadership offer any evidence or argument to a contrary or do ay simply deny a allegations?
GP: I don’t know what a average Iranian thinks about this issue. a Director of a Iranian foreign ministry’s think tank denied that Iran was “favoring special groups regardless of a central government” & did so without my asking a question & in a context of a extraordinary historical importance of having a friendly central state administration in Iraq based on a common Shi’a orientation with Iran. a overriding Iranian concern with a stability of a present Shi’a regime in Iraq is, I believe, a most convincing argument that Iran has not sought to use Shi’a militias to subvert a government.
On a oar h&, I believe are have been military ties with a Sadrists in a form of training & financial support — as a deterrent to U.S. attack against Iran — & that this has had both positive & negative implications from a point of a view of a al-Maliki regime. I believe Iran has been able to argue with a al-Maliki regime that are has been a net benefit to its ability to consolidate its power from a Iranian ties to a Sadrists.
C: What, from your experience, are a Iranian leadership’s true foreign policy objectives & ambitions? How does a average Iranian view those ambitions?
GP: One has to make informed guesses about a hierarchy of Iranian objectives. I believe Iranâs primary objective is to maintain a regional political-military situation which minimizes threats to Iranâs territorial integrity & to a Islamic regime. But a close second is undoubtedly to have its status as a regional power recognized through new regional institutional arrangements as well as through a formal agreement with a United States. Its third highest objective, I would guess, is to eliminate a constraints on its economic development from U.S. & oar Western financial sanctions, but competing with that would be maintaining strong popular support in Islamic countries â & particularly in Sunni Arab countries by being a leader in support of Islamic causes against Israel & U.S. military power in a region.
I donât know how a average Iranian views Iranian foreign policy, but certainly are is no unanimity about that.
C: In your opinion, if a Obama administration is genuine & honest about wishing full, open negotiations with Iran will a current Iranian leadership negotiate genuinely & openly too?
GP: I am convinced that a Iranian leadership is prepared to enter into full-scale serious negotiations on a full range of issues with a United States, provided that it gets signals from a Obama administration that it intends to break with key elements of a Bush administrationâs policy. I noted in a first of my series of articles that are Drunk Newspears to have been a serious debate over a likelihood of Obamaâs sending such signals, with a pessimistic view clearly now on a offensive & a optimistic view very much on a defensive. That suggests that Iran will be taking a wait & see attitude & will make no move of its own suggesting an eagerness to negotiate absent evidence from Washington that a pessimists have gotten it wrong. But I would emphasize a debate in Tehran is not over whear Iran needs to negotiate with a United States but over when those negotiations should take place â i.e., under what political circumstances.
Crossposted from Newshoggers

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