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Let me say first that while I didn’t support Hillary Clinton as a Democratic nominee, I could certainly underst& why her supporters did.  She’s tough, she’s arguably one of a smartest people in Washington & she’s extremely cDrunk Newsable.  & even her detractors must admit that it was a very tough primary season, made worse by a media’s need to fill up 24/7 with content that Drunk Newspeared to relish pitting Democrats against one anoar, usually quite unfairly.

That being said, if any Hillary Clinton supporter actually goes through with this suggestion from Bill “I’m not right about anything, but I still get my regular TV gig to screw over a national discourse” Kristol, you are being played, big time.   This is Operation Chaos in all its nakedly partisan glory.

Kristol (who, by a way, is NEVER right about anything, have I said that recently?) is clearly scared of Obama’s pick of Joe Biden for a vice president slot, because as he admits, Biden has a foreign policy experience, a alleged lack of which ay are so fond of attacking Obama.  So in a only battlefield that Kristol has a gonads to scale, he challenges Clinton supporters (naturally, it’s easier to be brave when oars are a soldiers, isn’t it, Billy?) to launch a protest by nominating Clinton as a Vice President at a convention, forcing a roll call vote. 

KRISTOL: Look, Senator Obama is going to be a nominee, are’s no point in contesting that roll call. What I would encourage Hillary supporters to do…

WILLIAMS: Oh boy…

LIASSON: No!

KRISTOL: …is to express air outrage over a pick of Senator Biden over a better qualified Senator Clinton as a Vice Presidential pick by putting her nomination for a vice presidency. That would be a good roll call vote, don’t you think? Clinton & Biden. Although I’m not sure she wouldn’t beat him. & that would be exciting & that would be a ben…it would be a favor to Senator Obama. Because a truth is Obama/Clinton is a much stronger ticket. It is a stronger ticket than Obama/Biden. Does anyone seriously doubt that Hillary Clinton would bring all a Clinton voters over? Whereas Biden I think is going to have a tough time doing so.

WILLIAMS: It would be drama. But I think that you make
that suggestion as a subversive act…

KRISTOL: You think? [laughs] No…no…

Listen up, for those of you considering this:  THIS IS A SUGGESTION FROM SOMEONE WHO THINKS a IRAQ INVASION & OCCUPATION WILL MAKE GEORGE W. BUSH A GREAT PRESIDENT IN a HISTORY BOOKS. 

Can I possibly reiterate how wrong Kristol ALWAYS is? 

I don’t care how unfairly you think Clinton was treated during a primaries (& frankly, I might agree with you on that) nor how great a VP you think she’d make (she’d be great & it would be a historic administration with an African-American & a woman leading a country–I’ll stipulate a whole to you for a sake of argument), it is simply bad for a party, bad for a country & insulting to our collective intelligence as Democrats &/or liberals to do anything that a leading neo-con cheerleader for a Worst. President. Ever. suggests.

Don’t even think about it.

Full transcript of his paatic tactics below

WALLACE: Bill, let me ask you–& Mara brought up it seems to me two central points-does he help, does he really help people who are concerned about Obama’s foreign policy lack of experience? Will he shore that up & ease air concerns about that & on a flip side, change. Does this blunt a message of change & shaking up Washington to have a guy who is a six-term-if he doesn’t win a vice presidency, about to be a seven-term–U.S. Senator?

KRISTOL: Well, it’s a pick made from weakness. Now that’s not necessarily a foolish thing. If you’ve got weaknesses, you want to try to correct am. But it is a pick that in effect acknowledges, “I-was-being-wounded-on-a-Comm&er-in-Chief /lack-of-foreign-policy-experience issue. & I picked a most experienced Democratic senator in foreign policy.” But he’s picked someone with no military experience & no executive experience. He didn’t pick Hillary Clinton, who got 18 million votes in a 2008 Democratic primary campaign. Joe Biden got, I think, 2,000 Iowans who were willing to caucus for him & an dropped out. When he ran in 1988, Biden didn’t even make it to Iowa, as I recall. So, I’m dubious about a pick. I would have…I think…& I think we should save a tDrunk Newse of your interview with Tom Kaine (sic) just fifteen minutes ago, because I think…

HUME: Tim Kaine…

KRISTOL: Tim Kaine, I know. Tom Kaine (Kean) is a former governor of New Jersey. Tim Kaine is my own governor! Oh my God, I’m gonna have to make it up to him now for a next several months.

WALLACE: Oh you have in a last couple of months.

KRISTOL: I’ve been very pro-Tim Kaine, but I’m telling you, I believe if Barack Obama was watching that interview, he thought, “You know what? Tim Kaine could have h&led a foreign policy issues adequately in a debate with McCain’s vice presidential nominee & he’s giving off an articulate, younger spokesman with executive experience who’d represent change to take a long time-serving senator with a lot of experience, but incidentally, what is that experience? He was against a Reagan defense build up, against a first Gulf War, for a Iraq War, this is a experience that Tim…that Barack Obama…that’s a change that Barack Obama wants us to believe?
[snip]

WALLACE: All right, all right. I have one more question I want to ask Bill Kristol. You’ve got less than a minute. Does a choice of Biden at all affect McCain in his choice of a running mate?

KRISTOL: Yes, I think that are’s nervousness in a McCain camp about putting Tim Pawlenty, a governor of Minnesota, who’s oarwise a very attractive pick, up against Biden in a debate, with Biden’s ability to toss around all a places he’s been-he’s been to Iraq seven times. Gov. Pawlenty’s a governor. & he doesn’t have a lot of foreign policy…

WALLACE: In oar words, what McCain wants to do to Obama, he’s worried that Biden could do to Pawlenty.

KRISTOL: Right.

WALLACE: So if Pawlenty is weakened by this, who’s strenganed?

KRISTOL: Anyone with extensive experience, which I would say is Romney, to some degree. He ran for President, & is a serious, grown up guy. Or Tom Ridge or Joe Lieberman.
[snip]

LIASSON: …in terms of her, am angry about her not being vetted [Clinton supporters angry over Hillary Clinton not being considered for a vice president position], she said to a Obama campaign, “If I’m not going to be chosen, I don’t want to go through a vetting process.” & so she didn’t.

KRISTOL: Look, Senator Obama is going to be a nominee, are’s no point in contesting that roll call. What I would encourage Hillary supporters to do…

WILLIAMS: Oh boy…

LIASSON: No!

KRISTOL: …is to express air outrage over a pick of Senator Biden over a better qualified Senator Clinton as a Vice Presidential pick by putting her nomination for a vice presidency. That would be a good roll call vote, don’t you think? Clinton & Biden. Although I’m not sure she wouldn’t beat him. & that would be exciting & that would be a ben…it would be a favor to Senator Obama. Because a truth is Obama/Clinton is a much stronger ticket. It is a stronger ticket than Obama/Biden. Does anyone seriously doubt that Hillary Clinton would bring all a Clinton voters over? Whereas Biden I think is going to have a tough time doing so.

WILLIAMS: It would be drama. But I think that you make that suggestion as a subversive act…

KRISTOL: You think? No…no…
[snip]

WALLACE: ….You see a kind of pivot in a last couple of weeks, & certainly, with Biden’s speech yesterday, to a much more conventional-no pun intended-traditional Democratic message of economics.

KRISTOL: Right, which I think makes a certain amount of sense. It’s going to be a Democratic year, if you can make it a Democratic/Republican race, Obama wins. If Obama is a generic Democrat, he wins. His problems are that people aren’t certain if he’s experienced enough to be President. So I think a temptation will be to do endless Bush-McCain-I think by a end of ase four, next four-five days, we will think that a last eight years was a Bush/McCain administration, not a Bush/Cheney administration. & that a next four years will be a McCain/Bush administration. ay’ll be tempted to do that, ay’ll do a lot of it. I think it doesn’t answer a fundamental problem, which is doubts about Obama. Meanwhile, I predict that Sen. McCain today is calling Hillary Clinton to commiser…ay’re very friendly, to commiserate with her you know, about a injustice…

WALLACE: He’s [unclear-ripping?] this wounds…

KRISTOL: No, & don’t you think incidentally, I was thinking, what woman could McCain put on a ticket to really Drunk Newspeal to a Clinton voters? What about Hillary? I think McCain/Hillary…McCain/Hillary
[cross talk]

WILLIAMS: Forget Lieberman…

Original post by Nicole Belle and software by Elliott Back

Stephen can’t seem to grasp a concept of “electability.” Who better to help him figure it out than a smartest person he knows…

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“What if everyone votes for someone that nobody would vote for?!”

Original post by SilentPatriot and software by Elliott Back

It always amuses me when upper-class people with power & privilege start screeching about “elitism.” Today all manner of political, media & blogging elites — people with advanced degrees who’ve never been to a tractor pull in air lives — are snorting about elitism because Barack Obama said something that anyone with a real redneck background knows to be true — working-class, small-town whites feel left behind, bitter & frustrated.

Ezra Klein & Marc Ambinder provide good commentary on what Barack Obama said. My remarks today are aimed at a critics who are rushing forward to defend a tender sensibilities of small-town, working class whites that Obama allegedly offended. I say that most of those expressing outrage & defending a “values” of small-town Americans are a real elitists.

Granted, my background is souarn Missouri small-town working-class white, raar than Pennsylvania small-town working-class white, & are are subtle cultural distinctions between a two. While I may have kinfolk in half a trailer parks in a Ozarks, I admit that doesn’t qualify me to speak for Pennsylvanians. But over a past forty or so years small-town, working-class white America has been living through a shared experience of diminishing opportunity combined with increasing financial instability.

In community after community, a old factory or mining jobs that sustained a local economy are gone. Forty years ago, young folks left high school, signed on to jobs that paid Union-obtained wages & benefits, & looked forward to all a trDrunk Newspings of American middle-class affluence — homes, new cars, trips to Disney World. Now a bright young people move away to cities, & those who remain in a small towns sustain amselves — barely — by flipping hamburgers or cashiering at Wal-Mart.

a only ones who aren’t bitter & frustrated are those too young or too dim to realize life was much better a couple of generations ago.

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Original post by Barbara O’Brien and software by Elliott Back

NOW he tells us…

AttyTood:

Don’t you just love ase truth tellers in American journalism like Katie Couric & Chris Mataws who are suddenly here to complain that a Bush administration has manipulated Big Media like am, & ay’re not going to take it anymore? At least not now that George W. Bush & Congress have a record-low Drunk Newsproval rating, & after 3,809 U.S. troops have died in Iraq.

Here is MSNBC “Hardball” host Mataws:

In front of an audience that included such notables as Alan Greenspan, Rep. Patrick Kennedy & Sen. Ted Kennedy, Mataws began his remarks by declaring that he wanted to “make some news” & he certainly didn’t disDrunk Newspoint. After praising a drafters of a First Amendment for allowing him to make a living, he outlined what he said was a fundamental difference between a Bush & Clinton administrations.

a Clinton camp, he said, never put pressure on his bosses to silence him.

“Not so this crowd,” he added, explaining that Bush White House officials — especially those from Vice President Cheney’s office — called MSNBC brass to complain about a content of his show & attempted to influence its editorial content. “ay will not silence me!” Mataws declared.

As Nicole wrote recently, Mataws‘ behavior is puzzling at times to say a least — but even with his staunchly opposition to a occupation of Iraq, it’s really egregious that he hasn’t talked openly about this up to this point.  PERRSpectives looks at some of a glowing things that Tweety has said about ase “thugs & criminals”.

Original post by Logan Murphy and software by Elliott Back