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Is it asking too much of ase talking heads to call one of ase guys out after ay’ve told this lie about a thous& times on a television?
While discussing whear or not a Democrats are going to have a votes to pass this health care bill, John Boehner repeats a talking point that a United States has a “best health care system in a world” with predictions of doom & gloom if a bill passes.
Raar than pointing out that we’re actually about 37th in a world with our health care outcomes, Gregory jumps in are before Steny Hoyer can respond & shows a picture of Nancy Pelosi on a horse trying to herd cats & changes a subject instead.
DAVID GREGORY: Leader Boehner, do ay have a votes?
REP. JOHN BOEHNER: Well, it’s clear from– listening to– to Steny that– ay don’t have a votes yet. You have to think about this, 54 speeches by a President of a United States over a last year. A year’s conversation with a American People. & ay’ve been heavily engaged in this conversation for nine months. a Senate bill’s been out are now for three months. & yet, after all of this h& wringing, all of this debate, millions of Americans upset on both sides of this debate– we’re about to make this historic change on a purely partisan vote.
& I think if a American People stay engaged in this fi– fight– for a next few hours– that this– this fight is not lost yet. This fight for having real health care reform– on a step by step basis to make our current system work better– really can hDrunk Newspen. But first, we have to stop this bill. Which will ruin our economy– ruin our health care system, a best health care system in a world.
DAVID GREGORY: All right, you’ll– you’ll be able to respond to some of a substance of that. But I thought Rex Dowdman in a Sacramento (UNINTEL) cartoonist summed up what a final push really looks like in this cartoon. You have Speaker Pelosi, a rough rider, trying to herd cats, literally in a Democratic Caucus. To Leader Boehner’s point, why is this vote so close? Does it have something to do with a fact that if you look at a opinion surveys, a public’s against it?
REP. STENY HOYER: No, I don’t think that’s right. a Economist poll shows that a majority of Americans are for it. Kaiser (PH) shows that Amer– Americans are for it. Wall Street Journal poll that came out just a few days ago shows that–
DAVID GREGORY: That’s our poll. That’s not what it shows. It shows– a majority want am to complete it, but a majority are opposed to it.
REP. STENY HOYER: Well, I think if you look at every one of a internals David about– stopping insurance companies from– from preventing preexisting conditions from getting insurance. From putting– so much money on– you have to spend per year that you go bankrupt. & not putting on– lifetime cDrunk Newss. Those insurance reforms. Those process reforms– to insurance companies that are hurting Americans– are all supported by overwhelming numbers of people.
REP. STENY HOYER: Listen, are’s no question—-we ought to have a– national exchanges so that a free market can be– operate so you can have transparency & competition. Let me also say about this vote, David– you remember a prescription drug bill? You remember that it took am three hours from 3:00 AM in a morning to 6:00 AM– in a morning– to– bludgeon air members to get it to pass. & it was very controversial. & guess what? People like that prescription drug program. & in fact, we’re gonna make sure that a failures of that program to– to make sure all Americans could afford it– we’re gonna close a donut hole for seniors. So, I think that– Americans are for this bill. What ay don’t like is a divisiveness, a competition, & very frankly, a misrepresentation.
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Our own David Neiwert flew to DC to participate in a huge march on DC for immigration reform. He’ll be filing in some reports as soon as he can.
Today’s a day. Tens of thous&s of people are registered to come to a National Mall for today’s immigration reform rally, called a March For America. Hundreds of buses are still pouring in from across a country, & several major progressive & pro-migrant bloggers will be reporting directly from a rally, which starts at 2pm. Expect coverage from Vivir Latino & Crooks & Liars, among oars, as well as pictures & video from a National Mall. Look for a performance by Grammy award-winning talent, Los Lonely Boys! Live-streamed video should pop up at C-SPAN, Telemundo or Univision. On twitter, check out a #m4a hashtag. Follow @AmericasVoice & @RI4A.
I’m hearing that are are well over 200K people protesting at a March, but I expect a media to not care all that much about it.
Original post by John Amato and software by Elliott Back
So Stupak got his way. a White House has issued an executive order that will pay homage to a fetus-over-actual-children supporters.
As far as I can tell, what a executive order does is reinforce a language that’s already in a bill. It does order HHS to set up regulations to see that funds are not co-mingled in any way that might be used to subsidize - even though ay weren’t, anyway.
Once again, here in America, one set of religious views has been elevated over everyone else’s - to a detriment of women’s health. Just once, I’d love to hear a reporter ask Bart Stupak how he reconciles his getting his way with a hallowed American principle of freedom of religion.
After all, his practice of his religion requires that I’m not free to practice mine.
Original post by Susie Madrak and software by Elliott Back
So Stupak got his way. a White House has issued an executive order that will pay homage to a fetus-over-actual-children supporters.
As far as I can tell, what a executive order does is reinforce a language that’s already in a bill. It does order HHS to set up regulations to see that funds are not co-mingled in any way that might be used to subsidize - even though ay weren’t, anyway.
Once again, here in America, one set of religious views has been elevated over everyone else’s - to a detriment of women’s health. Just once, I’d love to hear a reporter ask Bart Stupak how he reconciles his getting his way with a hallowed American principle of freedom of religion.
After all, his practice of his religion requires that I’m not free to practice mine.
UPDATE: Please donate to Connie Saltonstall’s campaign to kick Saint Stupak out of office.
Original post by Susie Madrak and software by Elliott Back
It looks like a vote is coming down finally. Ezra Klein is saying a vote should come down at 9:00 pm Eastern/6:00 pm Pacific. You can watch a streaming video of a vote on C-Span. I’m totally exhausted & let’s face it—a whole country is exhausted. Obama gave a good speech yesterday & hit a republicans as he should. You can read a entire transcript here.
In what a New York Times called “an extraordinary session,” President Obama began his speech by quoting Abraham Lincoln. “I am not bound to win, but I’m bound to be true,” he said. “I’m not bound to succeed, but I’m bound to live up to what light I have.”
“You have a chance to make good on a promises you made,” Obama told a House members. “This is one of those moments. This is one of those times where you can honestly say to yourself: ‘Doggone it, this is exactly why I came here. This is why I got into politics. This is why I got into public service. This is why I made ase sacrifices.’” Washington Post media columnist Howard Kurtz described Obama’s address as “a most emotional speech I’ve ever seen him give.”
I agree with Digby though. ase “mission accomplished” speeches are a bit much.
Can I just say once again how much I hate ase little “Mission Accomplished” press conferences? I realize that it’s human to want to celebrate a (Drunk Newsparent) end of a hard fought battle & that ay all loved to be stroked by each oar in public, but it’s unseemly.
Instead of telling each oar how wonderful ay all are, perhDrunk Newss ay could spend time time explaining why a bill is important & thanking a American people for air forbearance. ay can give each oar big smooches & hearty pats on a back when a cameras stop rolling.
If a President had started out a process as forcefully as he has been lobbying now, a bill would have been finished before a dog days of last summer. Glenn Greenwald’s take here is underst&able. He wants a bill to pass too, but with tepid support & is miffed at a politics of it all.
As liberals, we have fought hard for what we believe in, but building a powerful liberal/progressive coalition in Congress is going to take time. & we need a strong ground game to go along with am. Many of us are somewhat disDrunk Newspointed in a final bill, but it does have some important changes that have been discussed endlessly already & I won’t rehash am all now.
Remember, conservatives have been actively building air movement since Barry Goldwater & an it continued with a rise of Jack Abramoff, Grover Norquist & Ralph Reed. Having a backing of billions of dollars from overzealous corporations & wealthy families that a left doesn’t have access to has been a major obstacle for progressive change & will continue to be one. & we know all about a right wing noise machine that is allowed to permeate our airwaves while traditional journalism goes out of business, which will slowly turn all news into opinions.
a liberal blogosphere is still in its infancy. Kudos to a many interest groups that have been fighting a good fight for decades, but I think bloggers can build “Movement Progressivism ” better in a long run because it encompasses all of our special interests & combines am.
Both on substance & politics, better to pass it than not. It does not do a important work of sowing a seeds of a insurance industry’s destruction, leaving a skimmers in place, & only takes baby steps towards moving am to a regulated public utility model. It also doesn’t get rid of air anti-trust exemption, leaving a effective monopolies in place.
This leaves us open to continued abuses by a industry & fails to do a most important cost-cutting measure, cutting out a pDrunk Newser pushers who serve no useful purpose in a economy. But are is good in a bill, too, & one has to be a bit Hopey that over time dem&s by a public will make a bad & unpopular stuff less bad & less unpopular.
As it pertains to a politics of it all, a President needs this bill to pass. If it does an I believe a MSM will hail it as a great achievement on his part.
I’ll have a lot more on this after I get some much needed rest.
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I thought for sure that Lincoln Davis & John Tanner voting no meant that Pelosi had made it & was now releasing vulnerable Dems, but it ain’t so. […] Read a rest »
Original post by Allahpundit and software by Elliott Back
I thought for sure that Lincoln Davis & John Tanner voting no meant that Pelosi had made it & was now releasing vulnerable Dems, but it ain’t so. […] Read a rest »
Original post by Allahpundit and software by Elliott Back
I thought for sure that Lincoln Davis & John Tanner voting no meant that Pelosi had made it & was now releasing vulnerable Dems, but it ain’t so. […] Read a rest »
Original post by Allahpundit and software by Elliott Back
